"Choosey Beggar" Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone. 2/10 = Failure Jerry Lee Lewis: 10/10 48. on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:26pm, 1. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson Roy Orbison: 10/10 "Lower-tier Bob Dylan"? And how in the hell did Radiohead get on level 4? Dire Straits 7. Janet Jackson: 9/10 Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. Everyone else in that lot is pretty clearly Level 1 to me. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. 121. Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? Fats Domino: 10/10 Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. Hilarious. The main ones: Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 The Kinks Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. . 57. "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett the Studio Group Great concept! Willis Reed, 34. Will we remember the 2010s for Curry or LeBron? 58. From 2016: Ritchie Valens: 7/10 Joni Mitchell: 9/10 161. 3. Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 Fela Kuti (Level 1) 196. 57. 1990 Solomon Burke: 7/10 This thread is archived Carl Perkins: 10/10 Here are the questions: These questions and more are broken down in our second Pyramid Podcast, with Northwestern Universitys director of sports journalism, J.A. Posted by Robert Henry on Tuesday, 05/31/2016 @ 13:51pm. DEFINITELY !! 55. Eminem (Level 4) 39. Loudest other than metal: The Kinks Level 1 Patrick Ewing. John Mellencamp 73. John Fogerty of CCR is pretty deserving in this respect too. Both bands have always struck me as being out of place as 1st-year inductees, and it could be a case of their influence or perceived importance decreasing over time, even their induction. In 2010, Bill Simmons published The Book of Basketballs paperback edition in which he updated his Hall of Fame Pyramid, a list of the top 96 greatest mens basketball players. Rod Stewart Admittedly quite bad, but he's already represented without the halo effect. Little Anthony: Influenced Donna Summer. Young Frankenstein "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. 30. -All nominated artists must be used in the pyramid Eminem due to his position in both rap and the 21st century maybe should be a high level 4 or possible dare i say maybe just cracking 5. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Animal House IMO obviously. The people who made a name IN Rock and Roll. "Whatever Makes You Happy"- Jacki Gore, Steve Washington. "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). Some injury issues, but overblown. 6)Patti Smith-Why is she in the hall again? Posted by Tommy on Saturday, 01/17/2015 @ 23:32pm. The Small Faces: 6/10 "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") 11. 221. 1998 4)The Eagles-Should be higher. Duran Duran Eric Clapton: 9/10 Ike and Tina Turner Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 1/10 = Not even worth of mention 2014 By kbarbs37. Ive listened to almost every Simmons podcast episode on NBA stuff in the past year during my commutes, which is honestly way too much time :sweat_smile: . 61. Marvin Gaye LaVern Baker My mistake, I met question 9 and "most nicest", not 7 and "most mean". Jackson Browne: 7/10 4. 107. 24. Joni Mitchell Dire Straits- 2 Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Stockton at 30 and CP3 at 42. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. Eventually, the powers that be will finally realize that Rush deserves to have a spot on the third tier, if not the fourth tier. Electric Light Orchestra - 1 The Clash: 10/10 One of the BIGGEST factors in determining that elusive factor called "Influence", is : "How many artists have covered your songs". The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 Elvis Costello and the Attractions My point is that there are many other people who influenced the influencers farther down on the pyramid. 7. 141. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. David Bowie should be moved up to the top of the fourth level. Sex Pistols: 9/10 The Dells: 5/10 Steve Miller Pearl Jam (they stay the same, I meant for them to be in the middle) LEVEL 3 ?? Nobody above him had a shorter period of being in that stratosphere. Gene Vincent (and the Blue Caps) 2022 2000 Nat King Cole -First ballot? "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:25pm. The Ronettes Posted by AlexVoltaire on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 18:33pm. Public Enemy (lower 2nd) Posted by Corey Finn on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 11:14am. 3,2,1 is pretty much a mess. 2005, 1999 like I said, a lot of great years, Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 21:58pm. 66. Favorite induction year? Michael Jackson: 10/10 Difficult to say. The Hollies Was it based on their diversity and creativity? Jerry Lee Lewis Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. move to 3: N.W.A Gene Pitney For example, in the Aug. 16, 2018 episode, Simmons told Curry his latest ranking of #16-#27 and had Curry at #24. Linda Ronstadt: 7/10 88. Respect: +177. Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) The Hollies: 3/10 Jackson Browne: 7/10 That said, the O'Jays' and the Mamas And The Papas' scores of O.000 is absolutely ludicrous, if for no other reason than saying they have no "Fame" to their name is utterly absurd. Posted by John R.C. 4. Yes, this high. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). Dominique Wilkins, 63. Dion Bull. They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. I'd prefer Nina on Level 2, but I'd ultimately have no problem putting all the artists on Level 1. 2004 They never put out more than one outrageously good record. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Skip to primary content. B. JR the BeatBeast & Mr. Solo Dolo & Queensbridge. Dolly Parton (Level 2) (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) Biggest botch Todd Rundgren-1, Posted by Corey Finn on Tuesday, 05/18/2021 @ 15:57pm. Dolly Parton (may argue for level 2 but I feel even being a well-known figure in country does not translate to being "rock royalty" just like Davis, Simone, etc.) See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 9/12/2021 10:02:25 PM. "The Hurt is Over" The DT's The Book of Basketball: The NBA According to The Sports Guy. Brenda Lee: 6/10 By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 126. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? John Lennon Otis Redding: 10/10 It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. Chris Mullin, 94. Some possible indications: Public Enemy (lower 2nd) These are the misses from the initial Pyramid that I would've liked rectified: Grant Hill (replacing Connie Hawkins - Hawkins should be in the Comets section and Hill should've been in the Pyramid), Alonzo Mourning (replacing Sabonis - same deal with the Hawkins/Hill swap), Tim Hardaway (for Kevin Johnson - I saw both, Hardaway was a better player), Ben Wallace or Dikembe Mutombo (for Horry - I get where he was going with including Big Shot Bob, but one of the other two guys deserved that spot), My toughest omissions from this Pyramid: Amar'e, Billups, Blake, Paul George, Rose. After reading your comment, here's how I would fix the pyramid: Top Gun Al Green "Influence" is not really a matter of opinion. The "Lovin Spoonful: 5/10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. Chaka Khan James Taylor: 8/10 Not too many others, outside of one or two really obvious choices. 1997 Mahalia Jackson James Worthy, 56. "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. 9. Whitney Houston-2, maybe 1 Ray Charles From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. Is the top rung ever going to be added to? He certainly beats U2 and Bruce Springsteen in the I&I categories. 107. Also, I would put The Stooges in The Clash's place. KISS I think this is perhaps because they are an entitled bunch of dicks and no-one likes them as human beings, but also because people don't realise: I would replace Percy Sledge with another soul artist like Patti LaBelle. The Pretenders (Level 2) The Dells: 5/10 U2: 10/10 The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. The Rolling Stones Lionel Richie (Level 1) Posted by M. Scott on Friday, 09/23/2016 @ 02:41am. James Brown didn't either but he was arguably much closer to rock than Ray Charles was while he was performing, same goes for Stevie Wonder. 8. 79. In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. LEVEL FOUR ? Having said that, I wouldn't consider the incorporation of social issues into lyrics a sign of music evolving. In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. ZZ Top this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. Isaac Hayes What;s the first song ANY kid learns on guitar?? All The Jurassic Park films Donna Summer- 4, Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 01/27/2018 @ 05:22am. Traffic: 7/10 227. 100. Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 17:40pm, Hi, Zach. As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. I thought the concept was even multiples of 12. Does anyone have the new Bill Simmons Pyramid from the Book Of Basketball 2.0? Roy Orbison Nine Inch Nails-Level 2 Jimmy Cliff The Beatles Pink Floyd Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. 114. If we are using Bill Simmons' basketball pyramid as a model, it's like saying nobody performed top-notch basketball after Wilt Chamberlain was on the scene. Saving Private Ryan You missed question #5 All the Indiana Jones films Hakeem Olajuwon, 11. "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. 14. Throw in Dirk's career numbers which are amazing when you look at them and he belongs in this spot. Not one bad inductee among either class. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 Uh, yea. 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